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“Another option is upper & lower Grieder Lakes. As for access you might want to call the people at Spada Lake and ask if the gates to the rec area are unlocked yet. I spoke with them several weeks ago and they said the gates to Spada Lake Rec Area (and the TH) should be open by mid May. I would guess the ice might be off both lakes, although Jonathan would know more about that.^^Cliff”
That’s really interesting, Brian. I recall watching a TV program a while back on the “Taos hum” that many people from the Taos, New Mexico area talk about. Here’s the page:
The Taos Hum
The Taos Hum is a faint, low-frequency humming noise heard in and near the town of Taos, New Mexico. Not only is the hum’s source a mystery, but its peculiar qualities are as well: only about 2 percent of Taos residents – about 1,400 people – can hear it. The low hum – between 30 and 80 Hz on the frequency scale – has been described by hearers as sounding like a diesel engine idling in the distance or having a slow beat-note sound. Some people perceive it as being louder indoors than outdoors. More mysterious still, some hearers who are bothered by the sound have tried earplugs and other acoustic quieting devices to block it out – to no effect. Investigations by scientists, including some from the prestigious Sandia National Laboratories, have failed to find a source or even a plausible explanation for the phenomenon. One theory is that the source is the U.S. Navy’s ELF (extra-low frequency) communications system that is used to communicate with its submarine fleet. The Navy, of course, accepts no such responsibility.Taos isn’t the only town afflicted with an annoying hum.According to “The Taos Hum Homepage”, Nearly every state in the U.S. has at least one’hum hearer’ report, including Alaska and Hawaii. The largest number of reports come from the southwestern U.S., the Pacific Northwest, and southeastern states. Worldwide, the hum has caused such problems in the U.K. and Sweden that hum-hearer support groups have formed there. There are hum-hearer reports from Italy and from Mexico. The Bristol Hum is the most widely reported hum in the U.K.
A long list of hum reports from around the U.S. can be read here, and you can even add your own to the list.
Brian, can you be a little more specific about these noises? Were they “electric” or were they possibly something that could have been human or animal made?
CliffMcPil – I was backpack hunting on Thompson Ridge (east of Twisp) a couple of years ago by myself, deer hunting, and I heard an absolute slaughter one night that I think was an owl killing a rabbit. Seems like it took forever for the owl to kill the rabbit. Of course, rabbits aound like babies screaming when they’re being killed so it creeped me out for several hours. Can your sounds have been something similar?
Cliff“McP, I’ve still got my old Trager & Sons Trapper Nelson and I even use it sometimes, for day hikes. There is still a comnpany up in B.C. that continues to manufacture a Trapper Nelson, but the new version has a cordura bag instead of canvas.^^Cliff”
“Will do, Bob. See you Thursday.^^Cliff”
“Good questions Dave, as I’ve wondered about this myself. I was of the mind that it would be almost 100% diet. I work in fisheries and posed this question to one of our bios. Here’s what he said:^^The pigment comes from the diet. All of the pigments are produced by^^plants (phytoplankton) and are then eaten by animals (zooplankton) like^^shrimp which are then eaten by fish. If a fish is fast growing and is^^not eating a lot of shrimp or insects then it will dilute the color. The^^pigments are call carotenoids and are what make carrots red and^^flamingos pink (they eat shrimp).^^^^”
Thanks for doing this Dave. I’ll be catching up with you at the next meeeting (either one).^^Cliff
“Hi Dave,^^^^John (that web page owner) turned me on to the Zray a few months ago, and I’ve had pretty good luck with them. I’ve got a few of the 1/4oz and a couple 1/8oz – gold w/red dots. In fact, there’s a 14 cut swimming around in North Lake with one hanging out of his lip right now, unless Brian caught him after I left (he broke me off). I found a few locally, but they are all gone and they are really hard to find, so count me in for your lure-pool. ^^Cliff”””
“You’re welcome, McP. Agree with you that it’s kind of silly about the dam. I can’t imagine anyone wanting to screw around with it, but you never know, I guess. Yea, the guard was kind of a Barney Fife, and looked to be nursing a hangover from the night before, but he seemed like a pretty nice guy. I felt sorry for him because he was already catching the brunt of several hikers frustrations, and I imagine it got much worse as the weekend wore on. I understand this Baker Dam problem may end in another week or so.”
Thanks Brian.
I apologize for the size of the .jpg file that I attached to my message – it looked normal on my pc but looks huge here on the TB site. Brian – can you shrink these at all? I’m attaching a second .jpg file on the pack at full size (extended) with the bayonet system. Thanks.^^Cliff
“Thank you, Mossback, for your very informative response. I’ll share this with my hiking buddy and maybe we’ll be able to make it up there this year. Very interesting indeed about it’s inclusion in the Wild Sky proposal. Anyway, thanks much, I love the history in these mountains. By the way, my dad passed on in 95′; could you be thinking of someone else? He was a gunner on 350’s & 5″”51’s in the atlantic during the war, so his hearing wasn’t too sharp, either. (note – this is my second attempt at posting this. The first one didn’t show up so I hope I’m not double posting here).^^Cliff “””
“Thanks guys,^^I’ll take a look at all of these, and I forgot that Montrail still makes their norwegian welt Mazama boot, so I’ll look at that too. Brian, I’ve heard about L.L. Bean hiking boots before and they have a great rep. And Jonathon, I recall the obscene weight of those old clunker Danners I had, but you’re right about them protecting your feet. For extremely rough off trail hiking (and chukar hunting) I can’t think of a better boot, as long as it covers enough of the ankle. I also phoned down to Second Ascent and the kid there said they had a lot of old boots that fit the description, but he didn’t want to go look. Thanks for the tips.^^Cliff “
“Well, I can sure see how you feel a little bit of parental responsibility”” for those fish. I guess I felt more like an “”Uncle”” since it wasn’t my lake. Sure was cool, though. If I’m around and stocking lakes in 40 years I’ll be 88, and my particular gene pool doesn’t seem to last that long, but I’ll stock for as long as I can!”””
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